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Online poker can you make a living off it?
- These online poker sites are legal in the U.S. And can provide you with ways to win some real money. Check out WSOP NJ, 888poker NJ, Global Poker, and more! Live Events 2.
- Playing poker for a living isn’t easy, and often isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, so don’t make any rush decisions In the online arena, things have become very tough. It is still possible to win, but you need to be prepared to work really hard and learn to use software to select tables, track stats, and more.
Tuesday 23rd June 2009
Vee quiva casino phoenix az. I played online Poker nearly every day from the age of 15 to 18. When I started, I had several years of competitive Magic: the Gathering under my belt, so I understood the systematic process of learning a card game. For a brief period, I played bo. That being said you can still find a lot of promotional work being done on PokerStars and the popularity of Rush Poker has (in some ways) made poker more profitable than before, albeit you have to adapt your playing style to a different form of play. So, I would say if you are prepared to adapt you can still make good money playing poker.
I know someone who's been playing professionally for almost 2 years now (all his earnings are from poker). He plays online tourneys (sit & gos mainly plus regular bigger events). He earns an ok living for his age (avg approx 2k per month).
And if you think crazy hands never happen in the real world check out this deal: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/809970/unbelievable_..
One of the reasons you see so many bad beats online is that there's so many people willing to go to the river with ANY hand. Whereas in 'live' games most players have a bit more experience (or don't want to look stupid) and so won't chase the long shots.
And if you think crazy hands never happen in the real world check out this deal: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/809970/unbelievable_..
One of the reasons you see so many bad beats online is that there's so many people willing to go to the river with ANY hand. Whereas in 'live' games most players have a bit more experience (or don't want to look stupid) and so won't chase the long shots.
Tuesday 23rd June 2009
It is difficult enough to make a living out of poker if you include playing online and if you include playing cash games - both live and online. The question details, however, specifically refer to trying to make a living through playing live poker tournaments at local casinos - and, given these restrictions, making a living is likely to be extremely difficult indeed. Reasons why you lose money playing online poker. You’ve played 1,000 hands. You don’t use bankroll management. You play too many hands. You undervalue position. You make minraises before and after the flop. You multi-table too many tables. You chase draws too much. You make crying calls. You blame the poker room and not yourself.
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One of the reasons you see so many bad beats online is that there's so many people willing to go to the river with ANY hand. Whereas in 'live' games most players have a bit more experience (or don't want to look stupid) and so won't chase the long shots.
Also you just see more hands so you'll see more funny stuff. I've played over 2k hands in a day online but it's not really possible to play that in 30 hours of non-stop live poker. Tuesday 23rd June 2009
Not sure about making a living, but when the lat night poker comes on TV I know I have gone past my bedtime.
Cheers,
The Moose.
Cheers,
The Moose.
Tuesday 23rd June 2009
Dragged that from way back, I can't really recall the context and my comment. But don't forget poker winnings are considered gambling ie. Non-taxable.
the jist was that I said you need a massive roll to earn a living, you said not unless you want to earn 100k +..i said i did Tuesday 23rd June 2009
Dragged that from way back, I can't really recall the context and my comment. But don't forget poker winnings are considered gambling ie. Non-taxable.
the jist was that I said you need a massive roll to earn a living, you said not unless you want to earn 100k +..i said i did Yeah, I remember now. Well either play very well and say to hell with bankroll management and you can achieve those figures. But it may be difficult to repeat year after year. Learn to play heads up, there's a lot of money in that.Tuesday 23rd June 2009
My aim in Poker is to be a semi pro player, mainly online with the odd Casino visit and a weekly home game which is restarting up this week.
Best thing to do is join two+two poker forum and read the beginners section, there also links to training sites with some free and offers videos.
Start at the lowest stakes ie 2NL (1c/2c)
When you can crush those stakes, you move up. The most important thing is to learn Bankroll management, which will keep you playing through the longest downswings etc
Best thing to do is join two+two poker forum and read the beginners section, there also links to training sites with some free and offers videos.
Start at the lowest stakes ie 2NL (1c/2c)
When you can crush those stakes, you move up. The most important thing is to learn Bankroll management, which will keep you playing through the longest downswings etc
Wednesday 24th June 2009
Hmmm, the rake these sites charge is obscene - many good players only break even, and even with rakeback, your work has gone to the site.
Donkaments should be played for fun only, as the variance is a bh, and although you hear about big winners, look at entry fees they have paid, and very few are in profit.
From my view, to make a living off it you need to play cash 6-max or heads-up - and to make good money you need to play higher stakes. Higher stakes require massive bankroll, which can make it very stressful, and could cloud your decisions if you aren't truly comfortable with the money you are betting.
From my experience, it is hard to make a stable profit, because SO much boils down to luck. Luck overrides this game so much, much more so than skill (Obviously wannabe pros will disagree). Boil it down to the basics, and in order to make maximum profit, you need to be in the right place, at the right time, playing the right opponent. Many players only think about the luck of cards they are dealt at any one point, but maximum profit is made from the luck of the situation - i.e AA is gonna pay off a lot better when someone has KK.
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
All in all; hard to make stable profit, and very easy to be jaded by the lure of 'easy money'.
Wednesday 24th June 2009
Wednesday 24th June 2009
Sounds like someone is a losing player ^
(flame-proof jacket on)Define losing please.
The way I see it, the game is great for fun.
However, Online Poker, as a sole way of generating income, just does not cut it.
It's the true loser's way of earning a living.
E.g If you play successfully for 10 years netting £25k a year, which is possible if you play the very high stakes well. It's a lot of money for a poker player to make consistantly without a massssive BR, but really is nothing spectacular at all. But here's the problem: What are you going to put on your c.v when you want to get a real job, or if internet poker laws are changed meaning you can't play now.
You are well and truly scuppered.
It's just not a sustainable method of income in the long run!! Fact.
The way I see it, if someone can earn a good crust with online poker, they have the potential to go out there in the real world and make some proper money, with much less risk..
Sorry (I know this will annoy some people), but IMO the long term winners who play for a living ARE the losers. In a much, much broader sense.
Thursday 25th June 2009
(flame-proof jacket on)
Define losing please.
The way I see it, the game is great for fun.
However, Online Poker, as a sole way of generating income, just does not cut it.
It's the true loser's way of earning a living.
E.g If you play successfully for 10 years netting £25k a year, which is possible if you play the very high stakes well. It's a lot of money for a poker player to make consistantly without a massssive BR, but really is nothing spectacular at all. But here's the problem: What are you going to put on your c.v when you want to get a real job, or if internet poker laws are changed meaning you can't play now.
You are well and truly scuppered.
It's just not a sustainable method of income in the long run!! Fact.
The way I see it, if someone can earn a good crust with online poker, they have the potential to go out there in the real world and make some proper money, with much less risk..
Sorry (I know this will annoy some people), but IMO the long term winners who play for a living ARE the losers. In a much, much broader sense.
Losing player: someone that can't consistently make money, always whines about how unlucky they are and how they get beaten by bad players. Someone who is convinced poker is rigged and really just puts their money in bad but always blames it on bad luck. They keep playing despite the facts are clear as day that they lose money.Define losing please.
The way I see it, the game is great for fun.
However, Online Poker, as a sole way of generating income, just does not cut it.
It's the true loser's way of earning a living.
E.g If you play successfully for 10 years netting £25k a year, which is possible if you play the very high stakes well. It's a lot of money for a poker player to make consistantly without a massssive BR, but really is nothing spectacular at all. But here's the problem: What are you going to put on your c.v when you want to get a real job, or if internet poker laws are changed meaning you can't play now.
You are well and truly scuppered.
It's just not a sustainable method of income in the long run!! Fact.
The way I see it, if someone can earn a good crust with online poker, they have the potential to go out there in the real world and make some proper money, with much less risk..
Sorry (I know this will annoy some people), but IMO the long term winners who play for a living ARE the losers. In a much, much broader sense.
I don't see why it's a loser's way of making a living. Putting in a few hours once every few days and doing whatever else you like sounds like a good way of life to me. Working 9-5 in an office job you hate with people you don't like and having to look/dress/act to a certain manner sounds like a loser's way of life.
You outline the small grinder making £25k/year but there are people making that amount day/week. Maybe they could make more money in the real world, but there's more to it than just that and they enjoy the challenge and successful players are highly competitive and just enjoy playing the game.
If online poker gets banned or something happens to it there will always be european sites and if those go down (highly unlikely) there will always be live games running around somewhere. Who cares about CV? If you're financially independent then you don't need to get a job.
Thursday 25th June 2009
Losing player: someone that can't consistently make money, always whines about how unlucky they are and how they get beaten by bad players. Someone who is convinced poker is rigged and really just puts their money in bad but always blames it on bad luck. They keep playing despite the facts are clear as day that they lose money.
I don't see why it's a loser's way of making a living. Putting in a few hours once every few days and doing whatever else you like sounds like a good way of life to me. Working 9-5 in an office job you hate with people you don't like and having to look/dress/act to a certain manner sounds like a loser's way of life.
You outline the small grinder making £25k/year but there are people making that amount day/week. Maybe they could make more money in the real world, but there's more to it than just that and they enjoy the challenge and successful players are highly competitive and just enjoy playing the game.
If online poker gets banned or something happens to it there will always be european sites and if those go down (highly unlikely) there will always be live games running around somewhere. Who cares about CV? If you're financially independent then you don't need to get a job.
Yes. but how much did you lose? I don't see why it's a loser's way of making a living. Putting in a few hours once every few days and doing whatever else you like sounds like a good way of life to me. Working 9-5 in an office job you hate with people you don't like and having to look/dress/act to a certain manner sounds like a loser's way of life.
You outline the small grinder making £25k/year but there are people making that amount day/week. Maybe they could make more money in the real world, but there's more to it than just that and they enjoy the challenge and successful players are highly competitive and just enjoy playing the game.
If online poker gets banned or something happens to it there will always be european sites and if those go down (highly unlikely) there will always be live games running around somewhere. Who cares about CV? If you're financially independent then you don't need to get a job.
Saturday 27th June 2009
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
Do you have any idea how clever Poker sites are at detecting collusion? Hell, me and someone else in my house can;t play in the same tournament, just to prevent any possible collusion.Saturday 27th June 2009
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
Do you have any idea how clever Poker sites are at detecting collusion? Hell, me and someone else in my house can;t play in the same tournament, just to prevent any possible collusion.Pretty easy to have 3/4 of you at one table in a skype convo though. Saturday 27th June 2009
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
Do you have any idea how clever Poker sites are at detecting collusion? Hell, me and someone else in my house can;t play in the same tournament, just to prevent any possible collusion.Pretty easy to have 3/4 of you at one table in a skype convo though. 
Precisely.Saturday 27th June 2009
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
Do you have any idea how clever Poker sites are at detecting collusion? Hell, me and someone else in my house can;t play in the same tournament, just to prevent any possible collusion.Pretty easy to have 3/4 of you at one table in a skype convo though. Precisely.The poker sites have some amazing data mining software that can spot patterns with groups of players. It's not perfect but if you think that 4 accounts can collude week in week out without being spotted then I think you're mistaken.Saturday 27th June 2009
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
Do you have any idea how clever Poker sites are at detecting collusion? Hell, me and someone else in my house can;t play in the same tournament, just to prevent any possible collusion.Pretty easy to have 3/4 of you at one table in a skype convo though. Precisely.The poker sites have some amazing data mining software that can spot patterns with groups of players. It's not perfect but if you think that 4 accounts can collude week in week out without being spotted then I think you're mistaken.You admit it's not perfect; therefore it can be compromised. End of the story in my books.Saturday 27th June 2009
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
Do you have any idea how clever Poker sites are at detecting collusion? Hell, me and someone else in my house can;t play in the same tournament, just to prevent any possible collusion.Can You Make A Living Off Of Online Poker Games
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Saturday 27th June 2009
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
Do you have any idea how clever Poker sites are at detecting collusion? Hell, me and someone else in my house can;t play in the same tournament, just to prevent any possible collusion.Pretty easy to have 3/4 of you at one table in a skype convo though. Precisely.The poker sites have some amazing data mining software that can spot patterns with groups of players. It's not perfect but if you think that 4 accounts can collude week in week out without being spotted then I think you're mistaken.You admit it's not perfect; therefore it can be compromised. End of the story in my books.Ah, but can it be compromised economically? They only have to make it so hard that it isn't worth it.Saturday 27th June 2009
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
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Do you have any idea how clever Poker sites are at detecting collusion? Hell, me and someone else in my house can;t play in the same tournament, just to prevent any possible collusion.Pretty easy to have 3/4 of you at one table in a skype convo though. Precisely.The poker sites have some amazing data mining software that can spot patterns with groups of players. It's not perfect but if you think that 4 accounts can collude week in week out without being spotted then I think you're mistaken.You admit it's not perfect; therefore it can be compromised. End of the story in my books.Can You Make Money Off Online Poker
Ah, but can it be compromised economically? They only have to make it so hard that it isn't worth it.At the highest stakes poker with massive buy-ins, it can take only a few minutes for a team of colluders to strip one player of several thousands of dollars. Repeat a few times a week accross many different sites and thats a lot of money. Sounds economic enough to me?
Saturday 27th June 2009
This is completely forgetting about collusion. Think about high stakes. A lot of money is on the line, and ANY advantage increases profit dramatically. The incentives for cheating are massive - and the nature of online gaming makes cheating easy. Put flatly, you would need to be incredibly niave to think collusion is not rife in higher stakes poker.
Do you have any idea how clever Poker sites are at detecting collusion? Hell, me and someone else in my house can;t play in the same tournament, just to prevent any possible collusion.Pretty easy to have 3/4 of you at one table in a skype convo though. Precisely.The poker sites have some amazing data mining software that can spot patterns with groups of players. It's not perfect but if you think that 4 accounts can collude week in week out without being spotted then I think you're mistaken.You admit it's not perfect; therefore it can be compromised. End of the story in my books.Ah, but can it be compromised economically? They only have to make it so hard that it isn't worth it.At the highest stakes poker with massive buy-ins, it can take only a few minutes for a team of colluders to strip one player of several thousands of dollars. Repeat a few times a week accross many different sites and thats a lot of money. Sounds economic enough to me?Not really if they can only do it once. What's the IRR on that btw?Can You Earn Money From Online Poker
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